Honestly Linux desktop is in such a good state these days that I have absolute zero care what happens to the rest of desktop ecosystem. If you’re looking to get away from macos then just do it - get linux with gnome and you won’t regret it. If you’re moving from windows get KDE instead but both are incredible desktop environments that are far ahead of competition.
RIP Hackintosh 💔
“Golden Gate”? That’s the lamest name for a macOS release ever IMO.
Edit: As expected, half the page on Apple’s website talks about AI with only vague things about performance and UI improvements. I’ll be staying on Tahoe for now.
I’ll lift a comment I posted elsewhere on the topic of the name.
From a 9to5mac article on the topic:
Breaking with tradition, Apple didn’t name macOS 27 after a national park, lake, or other natural landmark. Instead, this year’s release is named after San Francisco’s iconic Golden Gate Bridge.
Typical of 9to5mac “reporting.” The Golden Gate is a natural landmark, it’s the strait between San Francisco and Marin which the famous bridge spans. Nowhere in the OS release even says the word bridge.
Fun fact. While it might seem safe to assume the “gold” in Golden Gate refers to the gold discovery about 100 miles upriver that started the California gold rush, it was in fact named the Golden Gate prior to the gold discovery. John C. Fremont (my favorite early Californian) named it such because of the color of the hillsides when he first arrived.
While I loathe AI bullshit, Apple is at least prioritizing local, on-device AI and end-to-end encryption with their cloud AI services.
I’ll still be passing on any of this bullshit, but I appreciate that they tried to make a less problematic version.
There’s no on device AI in Apple land - what are you talking about?
Also literally everything is end to end encrypted in this niche, that’s what s in https stands for.
There is on device AI in the Apple ecosystem. Many of the AI features that they announced will run locally (assuming hardware requirements are met). Things like Spatial Reframing will touch the cloud (via private compute) though. Other than that, Apple has an entire entry point for running AI close to the metal via MLX. It is kind of their entire angle at this point given their inability to create a competitive compelling AI product of their own. They appear to be taking on the role of “platform” once again.
Yes but these are nothing features compared to LLM. Samsung does on device picture moving nonsense too but in the grand scale it’s single digit % usage of AI if not below that. LLM is everything so the on-device tasks here are almost entirely meaningless.
The WWDC presentation yesterday was hilarious. Almost everything they said about the UI could be boiled down to: “We’re undoing some of the incredibly bad decisions we made last year. Not all of them, but some of the big ones!”
They then went on to demo the new improved Siri, and as someone who doesn’t use Siri, all I could think was “wait…Siri couldn’t do this 10 years ago?!”
What a sad state of affairs.
It was incredibly tonedeaf. AI is not what people want, Tim.
It looks to me like the main draw is performance optimization especially on older devices, which is a fantastic thing for them to focus on IMO.
For that reason, I wished they gave it a “Snow Leopard”-esque name. I’d have liked to see Lake Tahoe.
I’d hope that’s the case, and I hope it’s geared towards base M1s and such as they need it the most. Maybe they’re improving RAM management to improve performance on the Neo.
Good thing almost all flavors of Linux run flawlessly on the x86 models.
At this point put Linux on them. There are distros that even look and feel like Mac OS out there too.
Why tf would you want to ruin Linux like that
This is one of the reasons why I stopped buying Mac’s.
Apple talks a lot of trash about windows and Linux, but both offer far better long term support
Win 11 required TPM 2.0 (even though they went back and forth on it). That’s essentially the same thing, and Apple supported intel for a lot longer than was expected
They stopped selling the last Mac Pro and mac mini 3 years ago… So literally, their top end computer had 3 years of support of the latest OS (if you bought at the end of the cycle). And, they pulled this same BS from PPC to Intel, so, its not the first rug pull. And, its not like Windows hasn’t maintained excellent backwards compatibility otherwise (they still offer windows 95 backwards compatibility in a lot of cases in the latest OS). In fact, if your computer supports it, you also got a free upgrade to Windows 11 .
In this case, the Intel Macs include a T2 chip, so, its not like there is a valid security reason to break MacOS… They literally just blatantly screwed them (the Mac Pro was NOT a cheap computer).
Coincidenally, MacOS 27 beta breaks Linux too. https://www.phoronix.com/news/macOS-27-Beta-Breaks-Asahi .
I’d agree that buying an Intel Mac Pro three years ago and losing support is shitty, but on the other hand anyone buying Intel in the past six years certainly should’ve known their days were numbered.
It’s the same cost as a car and high profit
It should deserve a bit more support then only 3-6 years
Has it really only been three years? I was thinking it’s been six, but you’re right. I had to double check Wikipedia. I did read on HN that the asahi issue is a bug and not intentional.
They started selling 7 years ago the Mac Pro… but, only stopped selling 3 years ago apparently. Microsoft offered 10 years of support for Windows 10, and Ubuntu even offers 15 years.
Apple generally classes their products vintage after 6-7 years…
Normally, I’d say “fine”, but, this is now the second time they’ve done this within 20 years (they did it with the PPC -> Intel too), and the exact same way, and not all new apps are generally backwards compatible with the old CPU architecture either. So realistically, a lot of people are forced to upgrade regardless.
The Mac mini… Fair enough, its cheap. But, the Mac Pro was ridiculously overpriced (even the wheels cost $700 lol). You had to even pay extra money for 3 years of HARDWARE warranty.
The reality is, nobody knows is the Asahi breakage was intentional or not at this time. All we know is that Apple has contributed absolutely sweet F*** all to asahi Linux (despite it benefiting Apple primarily). The timing is interesting though…
I remember the ppc to intel transition. That’s when I bought an Intel Mac running leopard, right before snow leopard came out iirc.
I agree it’s shitty (especially since it’s only been three years).
glad i’m still on macOS 15
Right there with ya.
what about their new Neo MacBooks? no mention there.
Those run on ARM CPUs
no - i get that, but the article says new OS will require M-Series. isn’t that something different?
seems silly that a brand new (wildly successful) piece of hardware might not be getting an update, after less than 6 months on the market…
It will get the update.
By phasing out Intel what they really mean is phasing out support for the x86 CPU architecture in favor of ARM.
The MacBook Neo runs on A-Series instead of M-Series CPUs, but both are ARM and all ARM Macs will be supported in the upcoming release.
Apple said it will supported “M1 and later” which means every Mac after they launched the M1 model, which will include the Neo.
thanks for breaking it down for me!
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