• Bloefz@lemmy.world
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    12 hours ago

    We have similar laws here in Spain but it is a bit annoying, my employer is making me ‘clock in clock out’ now all the time. So they can comply with this stuff.

    Previously I just worked when I needed to, I work in IT and I was often flexible, hopping out to the shop or the doctor during the day and in the evening I’d hop on a call with someone in Australia. But now everything has to be formalised and officially requested which is honestly annoying. So I tend to just report bullshit hours and do whatever I did before, there’s just another bullshit bureaucracy load on me. I was not being exploited and probably worked less than my requisite hours. Just saying these things can backfire as well.

    Meanwhile the Indian guy in the mini market downstairs still works 12 hours a day because they only look at large corporations when they enforce this. Which weren’t the ones where the problem was in the first place. Because nobody bothers to check the little businesses.

    I’m not against laws preventing the abuse of employees, but I mean it just feels I got the short end of the stick, again. The company just shifted their responsibility onto me. People just report fantasy hours, the company is happy because they ‘comply’ and nothing actually changed.

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      13 hours ago

      Alright but surely you understand that a lot of people were being exploited and this is a good change for them?

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        12 hours ago

        Yes but they still are, that’s the thing. The big corporations just added another layer of pretend compliance and the rest is not policed.

        I think the politicians came off with a publicity win but nothing was actually changed in practice.

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        12 hours ago

        Yes I do understand I’m just a capitalist so I’ll pretend it affects me negatively. Think about my strawman instead

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          12 hours ago

          I’m not a capitalist, but I do hate bureaucracy. Especially when it’s just a fantasy for the sake of compliance. Because nobody I know actually reports their real hours. The company just tells the employees they are responsible for timekeeping. If you don’t report the exact number of official hours every day you get penalised. Besides that the pressure on employees (not on me like I said but on some others in the same company yes) is still as hard as ever. I have no ambitition to rise in my career so for me it’s a bit different.

          What I object to is this law not actually improving things but companies weaseling out of it as usual.

          • mabeledo@lemmy.world
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            10 hours ago

            If nobody reports their real hours, why do you complain in the first place? Time reports take 5 minutes, tops. I know because I had to do it for a while.

            • Bloefz@lemmy.world
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              6 hours ago

              Because it’s another hassle in my work day. Like I said I hate bureaucracies, especially unnecessary ones.

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                2 hours ago

                Five minutes is a hassle now?

                What’s the alternative, then? Employers reporting employees time?

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          11 hours ago

          hint: you’re not a capitalist, you’re a piece of capital in a system that requires you to sell yourself to the owners so you can afford to live. you’re a “resource.”