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    A monopoly is a monopoly. Just because Steam is a good store today doesn’t mean they deserve to hold a monopoly over the pc gaming market. So what happens when Valve has crushed every competitor? Gamers and devs have nowhere to go if Steam turns to shit. Eventually there will be a change of guards at Valve’s C-suite when Gaben retires or is dead. There is a good chance that those new execs will hollow out Steam and extract all the value out of it for their own benefit by screwing over the customers and developers. And they can get away with that if there is no competition. Competition is what keeps Valve in check.

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      Ubisoft, Epic etc… have done nothing to make the market better or make it more healthy. Epic is even more anti competitive than it’s competition.

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        Doesn’t matter. It’s still competition. They motivate Valve to create a better store and keep it that way. Since that is Valve’s unique selling point and what distinguishes them from the competition. Therefore I believe devs should make their games available on every storefront. Not just the best one, to give customers a choice.

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          Steam was great before epic and has been adding killer features since before egs came along. EGS tactics to win over steam users is to be anti competitive…

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              competition is good when the rest of the competition is able or good. EGS is so shit it has to buy exclusives and give out free games and it still doesn’t work. There has to be some equality in quality to have any chance of making steam better otherwise they just exist to make anti competitive moves, what is steam supposed to do? Also pay for exclusives?

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      But they haven’t crushed any other competitor through any mechanism but having a dramatically better product.

      They don’t force you to be exclusive to be on steam. They don’t force you to implement any of their Steam stuff. They are very permissive unless you do shit that potentially exposes them to liability down the road, like the NFT nonsense.

      And they let you generate keys for literally free to sell on other stores.

      All their stuff companies use is because it’s things customers value.

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        When they started, they did used to force you to use products edit: aside from their own games(fair cop), some 3rd party games like Lost Planet also required it.

        Certain games, and not just valve games, you’d buy in a store and the disc would force you to install and create a steam account to play the single player offline game.

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          They’re a distribution mechanism. If you buy a Steam game you need Steam. Allowing developers to require Steam to play their game is not anticompetitive or in any way unethical.

          They didn’t force any developer who wanted to sell games on Steam to only sell games on Steam. That’s what would be anticompetitive and abusing their market position. Games choosing to only distribute through Steam because there’s no other storefront that wouldn’t be a worse value if it was free isn’t Steam doing something wrong.

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            My point is that they did initially to force usage. I’ll edit the post with the game name when I get home.

            Edit: Lost Planet. It had a disc but required you to sign up for and use steam to play it.

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              A publisher only distributing through Steam when it does things others don’t isn’t forcing usage.

              Forcing usage is requiring developers to only distribute through Steam.

              There is no scenario where the first is wrong, and there is no scenario where the second is OK.

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              Looks like it was a console exclusive before it released on Steam, if you’re talking about Lost Planet: Extreme Condition (which is the only one I can find by that name).

              Do you have more information about the release? Or perhaps it’s a different game?