• Wispy2891@lemmy.world
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    2 hours ago

    So, if you subscribe to the $10/ month plan you get $10 worth of tokens to use within a month, and if you subscribe to the $49/month plan you get $49 worth of tokens to use within a month.

    At this point why subscribe? Just pay directly the tokens so if you use less you pay less.

    To me it doesn’t make sense to subscribe at $49 and maybe use $30 of tokens.

    People were subscribing at the $49 plan because they were using $1000 in tokens worth

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      People were subscribing at the $49 plan because they were using $1000 in tokens worth

      Companies were just eating that $951/mo loss so they could gain market share by burning their nearly endless pile of capital.

      Now were on the cusp of the bubble bursting so the dominant players are now trying to extract revenue via rapid enshittification.

      It’s not price fixing, that would be illegal, it just so happens that they’re all changing their business model at the same time. If they were doing illegal things there would be an investigation.

      In completely unrelated news, didn’t you see the nice ballroom plans?

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      43 minutes ago

      It will suggest code completions while programming, can ask answer questions about code, and can edit and run code if asked.

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      5 hours ago

      That was intentional. They were trying to word the announcement to not make it sound like you’re now getting 1/5-1/9 as much AI for the same price.

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        Yeah, I imagine that they did try. But it’s not just the intentionally misleading announcement post, they also have 5(?) different subscription tiers, which get different changes from this. And one of the subscription tiers is actually called “Pro+”, so that does not mean “Pro and more expensive tiers” like I wondered. And they have this ridiculous intermediate currency to make things even more confusing.

        Their offering itself is overly complex and confusing…

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    Users on annual Pro or Pro+ plans will remain on their existing plan with premium request-based pricing until their plan expires, however, model multipliers will increase on June 1 (see table).

    holy shit, 9x the previous cost. which was already not great. I was on the fence about cancelling it, but thanks for making up my mind, MS

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      I love that their email made it sound like it was a wash, like “we’re just changing our billing model, you’ll get credits now, samesies!” but then this pricing chart buried 3-levels down from the announcement lays out just how much less you’re going to get for the same price.

      I wonder about all the startups who were bragging about their $10k/month AI coding bills being the best money they ever spent. When this new pricing kicks in and pushes it to $40k/month right around the time all the vibe-coded shit blows up their codebase, I wonder if they’ll still be so happy with their choices.

      I interviewed for a place a while back and started asking about quality and velocity and how they balance it with AI developer tools, he said something like “One of our developers closed 400 PRs last month” and I instantly knew it was definitely not the place for me.

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        I wonder about all the startups who were bragging about their $10k/month AI coding bills being the best money they ever spent.

        WTF did they think was going to happen?

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        So, did they use AI tools to type “LGTM” 400 times or nah?

        But yeah, I also find that frustrating. Management just looks at terrible metrics like PRs closed or lines of code produced.
        It’s not even novel that you can produce terrible code very quickly. Decades ago, our industry learned that it isn’t worth it, because you suffer for it later. Now the game is altered slightly and management demands that we throw all these learnings out the window.

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      They should really describe this as you’re on the same plan, but your plan gives you 80-88% less use.

  • Fedditor385@lemmy.world
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    10 hours ago

    This is the right way to go. This will incentivize many companies to rethink their strategy, and slow down or scale down AI adoption. After that and the revenue drops for many AI companies, they will back off purchasing all possible RAM and storage in existence which will drive down pricing. And when the prices get to normal again, we will simply buy more RAM for our local machines and run free models.

    This news kinda makes me happy. Shit’s starting to fall apart. Finally.

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    Inline completions are genuinely useful, I’m mostly replacing them with local models though. They are slower but free as in beer (once you pay the hardware cost).

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        I’m using vim with minuet-ai, and it plugs the AI suggestion into my completion module. I found the Copilot style virtual text interfaces all janky.

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    11 hours ago

    Time to try those Chinese models. They just released a new Deepseek V4 Pro and I’m hearing great things and it’s super cheap