Microsoft is raising prices on all its current Surface PC offerings, with the midrange devices now starting at above $1,000, and flagships starting at $1,500.
    • Pycorax@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      10·
      24 days ago

      Not really sure how big of a difference it makes but isn’t the memory on the Neo on the same die as the processor? The A18 Pro is also likely a lot of old binned chips that they’ve been collecting for a year. I wouldn’t be surprises if this completely isolated them from the rising memory costs. Apple really lucked out on the timing of their release. Not that the Neo wouldn’t have been an amazing value regardless either way.

      • GamingChairModel@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        22 days ago

        but isn’t the memory on the Neo on the same die as the processor?

        Not actually on the same die, but in the same package, stacked on top using TSMC’s Integrated Fan-Out Package on Package (InFO-PoP).

        So the memory still needs to be sourced from memory manufacturers, sent to TSMC, and then have TSMC package it all together in a single package. It’s unclear whether they had locked up this supply at pre-AI prices, though. The underlying A18 Pro chip/package was annoinced and launched about 18 months ago, so if they had the manufacturing pipeline set up for that they might have kept the contractual rights to continue buying memory at the old prices.

      • Evkob (they/them)@lemmy.caEnglish
        21·
        24 days ago

        I honestly feel that’s less of a diss on the Neo and more of a statement on how overpowered phones are now, especially considering the limitations placed on mobile OSes.

      • ripcord@lemmy.worldEnglish
        19·
        24 days ago

        Some of the same hardware, yes.

        But also - the CPU/GPU in the iPhones are insane.

        Compared against a bunch of laptops in the price class from dell, HP, etc and the single-core performance is like 50% higher on the iPhone CPU in the macbook neo.

        I can’t wait for more ARM CPUs that hit these specs for a reasonable price.

        • theunknownmuncher@lemmy.worldEnglish
          23·
          24 days ago

          Those single core performance numbers are entirely benchmaxxed and don’t reflect real world performance or reality at all

          EDIT: downvoters in denial. They get better synthetic Geekbench numbers compared to some of the latest desktop x86 processors (“beats” 7950X and “meets” 9950X), but get absolutely smoked by those same processors in real use. Maybe your only use of a computer is running Geekbench idk.

      • Pycorax@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        5·
        24 days ago

        Not exactly, it’s a binned version. 5 GPU cores instead of the 6 on the iPhone. Still, it’s pretty impressive for what it’s able to do.

  • kboos1@lemmy.worldEnglish
    81·
    24 days ago

    But already cost like $1k. I can’t figure why anyone would want one. It’s like they took the worst things about a tablet and the worst things about a laptop and put them together.