• ExperiencedWinter@lemmy.world
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    18 days ago

    Also the electrical infrastructure in this country is not ready for everyone to go electric.

    You’re repeating big oil talking points. We improve the grid all the time, we can continue to do it. Sure if all cars were magically converted into EVs tomorrow we would have big problems, but that’s not how the real world works.

    If the grid actually was about to fall over because of a few more EVs, these datacenters spinning up all over the place would be even bigger disasters than they already are.

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      18 days ago

      I’m not using big oil talking points. I’m saying in reality, because of the damage that big oil has done to keep us from going electric, the infrastructure is not currently there.

      They’ve paid money to keep us from expanding our grid. They are saying it won’t work because they are making sure it doesn’t.

      I completely agree with you that I think it is absolutely possible, but there are bigger things blocking the way.

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        18 days ago

        By repeating their talking points, you are arguing that we should slow EV adoption. You are literally doing their work for them. At least if you worked for BP you could cash a pay check, you’re out here working for them for free.

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          18 days ago

          You could also be like James May, who daily drives an EV and has a hydrogen car. And also states that the charging takes too long and it’s not convenient for, say, younger people who cannot afford a house. So anyone under 40 these days.

          I’d absolutely get an EV for a daily. But not at the apartment I live at. I literally cannot charge it at home and you’d be wrong if you think I’d go out of my way to have to plan to charge it for longer than it takes to just put gas in an internal combustion car.

          You can be critical of something that you want to succeed. I’m probably most critical of things I enjoy, because I know a lot of them can be better.

          EV adoption should be increasing, especially for normal daily driver cars. It’ll let the weekend cars live longer as well. Win win.

          This is only fresh in my mind because James put out a video, quite literally yesterday, explaining what he does and does not like about his Model 3.

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            18 days ago

            You’ll notice I did not argue against that point at all, not having charging at home is a huge downside and would play a big part in if someone should buy an EV or not.

            “OuR gRiD cAN’T taKE iT” on the other hand is not a valid argument

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              18 days ago

              Yes, agreed. That grid nonsense is something you see parroted by people who would never, ever drive an EV in the first place.

              In the words of Gene Wilder, “You’ve got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know… morons.”

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              18 days ago

              What would happen if multiple people plugged in toasters every morning at breakfast time? ANARCHY.

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          18 days ago

          My dude is that what I said?

          I am very anti-big oil. I also acknowledge the fact that big oil has fucked us.

          I think if we can break away from their stranglehold on the industry, we can expand our grid and make EV happen. We also have a very large country with nothing in the middle. There are states without any electric chargers installed. It’s a very big hurdle.

          I never said we should slow EV adoption. If anything, I think they need to give everybody an electric car for free and make solar panels standard everywhere. But that’s not going to happen because of capitalism.

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            18 days ago

            There are states without any electric chargers installed

            So now you’re just lying, maybe I was wrong and you are getting paid to post this.