A draft law banning speech and dressing “detrimental to the spirit of Chinese people” has sparked debate in China.

If the law comes into force, people found guilty could be fined or jailed but the proposal does not yet spell out what constitutes a violation.

Social media users and legal experts have called for more clarity to avoid excessive enforcement.

China recently released a swathe of proposed changes to its public security laws - the first reforms in decades.

The clothing law has drawn immediate reaction from the public - with many online criticising it as excessive and absurd.

The contentious clauses suggest that people who wear or force others to wear clothing and symbols that “undermine the spirit or hurt the feelings of the Chinese nation” could be detained for up to 15 days and fined up to 5,000 yuan ($680; £550).

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    I find this kind of interesting after Naomi Wu (also known as SexyCyborg) recently had a run-in with the CCP and has largely gone silent online.

    For anyone not familiar with her/her situation, she’s a tech/maker YouTuber. She has a pretty radical look with enormous fake boobs and skimpy outfits, but she does have some genuinely interesting content. She had been calling out some security vulnerabilities that recently got some attention so that’s likely why the Chinese government, in her words, clipped her wings, but she had a bit of a target painted on her back regardless because of her appearance, being a lesbian, and because her girlfriend is a Uyghur.

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      bit of a target painted on her back regardless because of her appearance, being a lesbian, and because her girlfriend is a Uyghur.

      “Bit of a target” indeed. She’s like a walking Bingo card of everything China suppresses.

      Hope she’s okay.

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        The wild part to me is that overall I never got the impression from anything I saw from her that she was particularly anti-ccp, some of the annoyed grumbling I’d expect from literally anybody living under any government in the world, but that’s about it. Overall she seemed to be a pretty proud Chinese citizen, and probably a good spokesperson for the Chinese tech sector, from watching her videos I know that I’m slightly less quick to dismiss any Chinese gadgets as chinesium garbage. I’d think she’d be more useful to keep around for PR purposes, but after her previous incidents didn’t make significant waves with her western audience, it seems that they figured they’re free to bully her however they want to now.

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    For those wondering, “Hurting the feelings of the Chinese people” is an actual phrase (伤害中国人民的感情) it started all the way back in the late 50s.

    this last part “感情 ganqing” translated as “feelings” or “emotional attachment”, it’s actually an important part of chinese culture, esp business culture (similar to this is “guanxi” which is someone’s network). These are major parts of chinese culture and relationships with others. this phrase is more like “you’re hurting our relationship”

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    BORN TO DIE

    WORLD IS A FUCK

    Kill Em All 1989

    I am trash man

    410,757,864,530 DEAD COPS

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        They are listing all the printed t-shirts I have. Funny side story, while teaching in Japan, I’ve taught grannies with printed shirts that said stuff like this and they didnt understand. They thought it was cute and had foreign words. I think they needed to study more before their lessons.

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          Ohhhhhhhhh

          Haha these shirts are actually kinda funny in this context 😂

          Idk banning stuff is probably detrimental and a slippery slope but idk. Probably shouldn’t have your countries people running around with vial shit on their clothes (yeah yeah freedom of freedom with extra freedom and no responsibility, but like hitler tho.)

          Idk tough topic, knowing China though it’s probably just another power grab for them to take from their people. Cringe af no cap

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          “Missouri: the show me state” I have seen that shirt quite a few times in Asia. No, I didn’t ask any of them about it.

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    “Will wearing a suit and tie count? Marxism originated in the West. Would its presence in China also count as hurting national feelings,” one user posted on Chinese Twitter-like platform Weibo.

    She cited one case that drew headlines in China last year where a kimono-clad woman was detained in the city of Suzhou and accused of “picking quarrels and provoking trouble” because she had worn the Japanese garment. The incident sparked outrage across Chinese social media.

    “To wear a kimono is to hurt the feelings of the Chinese nation, to eat Japanese food is to jeopardise its spirit? When did the feelings and spirit of the time-tested Chinese nation become so fragile?” wrote one popular social commentator online, who writes under the pen name Wang Wusi.

    from here: https://www.bbc.com/news/business-58394906

    In 2019, during further moves on censorship, China blurred out the earlobes of some of its young male pop stars in television and internet appearances to hide their piercings. Tattoos and men’s ponytails have also previously been blurred from screens.

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    This is awful and wrong and a violation of the human rights of the citizens of that country. Thankfully, we don’t let the government decide what people are allowed to wear here in the good ol US of A…doesnt matter how many conservatives’ feelings are hurt. Small government and all that…