• NUMPTY37K@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    Long lead times against nuclear have bee raised for the last 25 years, if we had just got on with it we would have the capacity by now. Just cause the lead time is in years doesn’t mean it isn’t worth doing.

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      2 years ago

      “But I won’t see the benefit in MY lifetime!”

      Now, where have we heard that kind of reasoning and logic before? What current crisis has been caused by that way of thinking?

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      2 years ago

      Long lead times, cost overruns, producing power at a higher price point than renewables, long run time needed to break even, even longer dismantling times and a still unsolved waste problem. Compared to renewables that we can build right now.

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            2 years ago

            Did you even read my comment? What’s your solution for the waste from solar power and the batteries needed to store it? That is a far more immediate and even longer-term problem.

            Radioactive waste can be stored completely safely underground. The only reason we aren’t is because of “bleeding heart” morons who demand 100% safety, but only when it comes to nuclear. If we’re going to apply your concerns fairly, then solar power and anything involving battery farms is completely off the table. It’s far more damaging and more immediate than properly stored nuclear waste.

            I would know this because part of my career has involved the manufacture and R&D for various types of solar panels. You have no idea what goes into making them and the challenges involving their safe disposal.

            There’s a reason why I hate conservatives and don’t care about the wellbeing of liberals. Conservatives actively fuck shit up and you morons enable them.

            EDIT: To respond to your edit, no they can’t be.

            https://www.epa.gov/hw/solar-panel-recycling

            Other materials located within the solar cells may be more difficult to recycle. Silver and internal copper are valuable components, but panels typically contain very small amounts of these materials. Toxic metals like lead and cadmium may also be present in solar panels.

            How about you do some research instead of using a link from an organization that has a financial interest in getting you to buy solar panels and use them for recycling? Of course we can recycle the frames and glass in solar panels, that’s fucking easy. But nobody is worried about poisoning the environment from fucking glass. What’s your plan for the actual toxic metals and other chemicals in them?

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              2 years ago

              The plan is the same as for all other parts, recycling. The US gas no provisions about recycling currently, which is the reason people choose the cheapest disposal method currently, just dumping it.