• CareHare@sh.itjust.works
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    2 years ago

    This generation in Western Europe is totally against Russia. It is necessary to uproot them in their entirety.

    Why do you think this happened? This guy has no idea.

  • AnyProgressIsGood@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    Russia is a diseased country that’s trying to spread its rot. Why they aren’t dealt with more sternly is curious to me

  • NathanielThomas@lemmy.world
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    The West allying with Russia to fight the Nazis has left this lingering geopolitical fiasco to this day. Not that there was a better solution, of course, but Russia’s atrocities was created by stopping Nazi atrocities. They solved one problem and created another.

    • AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world
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      2 years ago

      Churchill argued at length that Russia had to be next after Germany fell. He probably was onto something there.

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        I think a direct war with the Soviet Union after meeting in Germany would have been possible but at that point probably too costly. All out war with Britain, France and USA versus the Soviet Union could potentially have defeated the Red Army but at a staggering loss of human life. As well, the ground they had to cover to push back to Moscow at that point would have been outlandishly difficult.

        Instead, the American support of Russia was a bit too successful and should only have supported a stalemate in the Eastern front until attrition made both very weak. Then, after D-Day, the Allies could have liberated Poland, Hungary, Romania, Estonia, etc. And then Russia would have been in 1945 where they are today instead of having 50+ years of occupation.

        • AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world
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          Also, the popularity of the Communist Parties in Europe at the time would probably have made such a confrontation quite awkward.

    • golamas1999@lemmy.world
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      2 years ago

      1917 the US and other Allies tried to intervene in the Russian Civil War on the side of the White Army.

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      2 years ago

      We can talk about the murderers who are doing this without using racist epithets.

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          2 years ago

          I’ll take a middle road here

          It’s not good to dehumanize people. Even ones who commit atrocities.

          Dehumanization is how we got here, it’s not a good path back, unless we wanna go in circles.

          It’s subtle, but important, for us to keep human the worst humans. We need to keep salient that these atrocities are being committed by our own to our own humans. That we are all capable of it.

          • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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            2 years ago

            I agree with you. Furthermore, it’s a step down the path of genocide. If your opponent is not human, why do they deserve human rights? They’re a dangerous animal. You wouldn’t let a dangerous animal live.

  • nomadjoanne@lemmy.world
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    Uff… as much as I think Ukraine is something of a corrupt western puppet, Russia is still, well, Russia. Not a great, humanitarian society.