silence7@lemmy.world to News@lemmy.worldEnglish · 8 months agoCould You Prove You’re a Citizen? For Americans wrongfully detained by ICE, it can be nearly impossible to escape.nymag.comexternal-linkmessage-square26fedilinkarrow-up1287arrow-down13
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minus-squarejordanlund@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up108arrow-down2·8 months agoNot if the people examining my documents are morons, no. I have a birth certificate, I have a passport and a passport card. None of that is a defense against “It’s fake”. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/may/24/us-citizen-detained-ice-real-id
minus-squaresilence7@lemmy.worldOPlinkfedilinkarrow-up58·8 months agoPretty much. The fact is that ICE does stuff like beat up and arrest a state-level union president because they don’t like the color of his skin.
minus-squareSwordgeek@lemmy.calinkfedilinkarrow-up45arrow-down3·8 months agoDon’t call it an arrest. It’s detainment. Kidnapping even. But an arrest has certain procedures and requirements that are not being followed by ICE.
minus-squareSinAdjetivos@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up18·8 months agoSo does detainment. The fact that they are not following the procedures and requirements makes it an unlawful arrest or, as you correctly pointed out, kidnapping.
minus-squareLordCrom@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up3·8 months agoSo ICE considers my government issued IDs are ‘fake’… Then we counter with saying that ICEs badges are fake and start shooting them in the fucking face if they ever try to take my wife away.
minus-squarejordanlund@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up3·8 months agoAlternately, ICE agents aren’t trained/are too dumb to identify fake IDs…
Not if the people examining my documents are morons, no.
I have a birth certificate, I have a passport and a passport card. None of that is a defense against “It’s fake”.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/may/24/us-citizen-detained-ice-real-id
Pretty much. The fact is that ICE does stuff like beat up and arrest a state-level union president because they don’t like the color of his skin.
Don’t call it an arrest.
It’s detainment. Kidnapping even. But an arrest has certain procedures and requirements that are not being followed by ICE.
So does detainment. The fact that they are not following the procedures and requirements makes it an unlawful arrest or, as you correctly pointed out, kidnapping.
So ICE considers my government issued IDs are ‘fake’…
Then we counter with saying that ICEs badges are fake and start shooting them in the fucking face if they ever try to take my wife away.
Alternately, ICE agents aren’t trained/are too dumb to identify fake IDs…