Archive article: https://archive.ph/LJPiZ

A new survey showing that 82 percent of Jewish Israelis support the expulsion of Gazans was met with disbelief among those who stubbornly believe that the extremists are outliers. But these trends are as consistent as they are shocking

  • kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    5 days ago

    There is no both siding this, the Zionists are genocidal and there are no good zionists. This should be shocking to nobody. Im Jewish and ill say this as many times as I need to

    ANTIZIONISM IS NOT ANTISEMITISM

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      When this voluntary migration plan succeeds and the world becomes a beautiful terrorism free utopia, you antizionists are going to look pretty stupid.

      Edit: Wait!!! Are you about to downvote me because you’re a zionist, an antizionist who doesn’t understand irony, or something else? I can’t not know!

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    My understanding is that Israeli TV is hugely responsible for making this mainstream. Just like in Rwanda where radio played a huge role in the genocide.

    It’s almost as if genocide scholars have been warning about a series of patterns over the last couple of years…

    • IhaveCrabs111@lemmy.world
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      Serious question, how much of this has to do with hamas not releasing the hostages. I would imagine they’d be hearing and talking bout getting their people back constantly.

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        Since the steps for Palestinian genocide started before Oct 7, and the IDF has been okay with killing their own hostages in high-yield strikes, not likely.

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    For years Israel has been running around the world, waving their foes statements about “pushing Israel into the sea” as a call to arms against atrocity.

    And now here they are, committing that very atrocity. But genocide seems inevitable when your stated goal is to be an ethnostate.

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    7 days ago

    Absolutely disgusting. Our common ancestors are rolling over in their graves at their inhumanity.

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    I noticed on LinkedIn that a ton of my former colleagues from Israel are now in the US. I think shifting demographics as progressives leave are a bigger part of the story than the shifting opinions these stories have been about.

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      I don’t judge the individual, but I sure as hell judge them as a group, who keep voting for people who are doing genocide.

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      Here’s the part where some numbnuts will stop to explain, “Not all Jews!” Yeah. We get that. But the Jewish state of Israel, which was founded as a safe haven for Jews, is genocidal as fuck. And who makes up 75% of the population of Israel? Could it be… Jews? Where do 50% of the Jews on the planet reside? Could it be Israel?

      And for stating a few unarguable facts, I expect a ban. Maybe I could very sheepishly, on the down-low, suggest that only a radical, very tiny number of Jews are, perhaps, maybe partly, just a bit, guilty of genocide, or at least, are collaborators and supporters?

      FFS, no one has the balls to say out loud, “Not a good look guys.” <-anti-Semitism

      Sincerely:

      GenXer who had always supported Israel and had less than zero beef with Jews.

      • Madagaskar_sky@lemmy.world
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        Yeah, I think it’s less being Jewish and more that they are settlers. They are acting just like how Canadians, Australians and Afrikaners acted against the local indigenous population.

        Anything that reminds them that they don’t belong to this land (in their assessment and minds, land does not belong to anyone) they hate that. Mostly the people who were there before them.

        It’s not Jewishness, it’s just Assholeishness.

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        Israel is absolutely being genocidal here, but it has nothing to do with them being Jews. They want the land, full stop. They believe they are more entitled to the land than anyone else, full stop.

        The fact that they are Jewish is really immaterial and hating “the Jews” because of what Israel is doing is a lot like, I dunno, hating white people because of the various White Supremacist groups.

        You have a supremacist government taking genocidal actions, any supremacist government would do the same, it doesn’t matter what the heritage is.

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          And you have a population that largely supports the actions of the government.

          It’s not the government just doing what it pleases, it’s doing what its population wants it to do.

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              I’m not disagreeing with you, but as my ex used to comment (she’s Jewish and went to private Jewish school) their religion is very clear in explaining they are the chosen children of God.

              Off the bat they are indoctrinated that they are better than all of us.

              All I know is my children are less safe in the world because of what the state of Israel is doing and that disgusts me.

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                  Oooh not like them. With them it’s clearly defined in the Torah multiple times. G-d Himself tells them they are His children.

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    It’d be more surprising if the ingroup of an established ethnostate weren’t hitlerites.

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    waiting for bill maher who claimed muslims were inferior because some muslim countries supposedly supported this and that according to random polls. surely he will be consistent.

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      Not to be super technical but “most” is not the same as “all”.

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          Not all.

          About 800,000 Germans were arrested during the war for actively resisting. That’s about 1% of the population arrested. And these were just the bravest ones. The less glorious ones are probably a bigger number.

          That’s not to deny that a majority was supporting the Nazis. That’s to make the distinction between “most” and “all”.

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    Anyone surprised? Nasi state governed by nazis, who were elected by nazis thinking they are more than others. Fuck israel.

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    There’s some weird looking Haredi Jews waving their arms and blabbering something about Materialism in that 18 percent.