More than 20 Ohio counties rejected Issue 1 on Tuesday and most of them were suburban and exurban counties that voted for Donald Trump in 2020.

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      I don’t think anyone’s seriously considered abortion a 50:50 issue in a long time. As far as I remember, it’s always been an extremist faction within the GOP, but a faction large and energized enough to dominate party politics. And it’s been ‘safe’ enough for mainstream GOP to play along with, because it was settled law protected by SCOTUS. Now that protection is gone, GOP politicians are going to have to decide whether courting those extremists in the primaries is worth the cost in the general.

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      I am predicting the same will occur with guns once today’s children age.

      These kids are doing active shooter drills as often as a fire drill.

      I cannot imagine this will result continued moderation on the gun issue.

      I predict revocation of the second amendment to be our next constitutional amendment.

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        That’s ridiculous. You would need 3/4 of the 50 states to ratify that change. There are way too many pro-2A red states for that to ever happen.

        Throwing away your rights is the dumbest thing you could vote for. They don’t just give out new rights regularly, it takes a lot of fighting and effort to get rights.

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            Well I’m glad your opinion on it doesn’t matter, because our gun rights are practically set in stone at this point. The gun cases getting appealed to the SC will be fun to watch.

            We all have a right not to be shot, and this is protected by the laws against murder and assault. In the USA we also have the right to bear arms, which is a crucial freedom in the long term scope of democracy and in the short term for self defense.

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    Every poll specifically about about abortion routinely shows 60%+ in favor of allowing it. You need more than anti abortion to win an election.

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    Issue one wasn’t about abortion, no matter how much people want it to be. Convoluting it with the November abortion rights issue will only give false confidence for the November vote. It’s going to be a much tighter vote than what this was. Plenty of people across the political spectrum saw the long reaching implications passing issue one would have and voted it down for being a power grab.

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      As an Ohio resident it’s extremely frustrating that every national news outlet is trying to equate the issue 1 vote with abortion rights. Issue 1 would have fundamentally changed how citizens can interact with our constitution by making voter initiatives almost impossible to pass.

      Yes, our farcical GOP government went on record saying this issue was in response to the November initiative about abortion rights, but this vote if passed would have made every other future voter initiative all but impossible to pass. It would have consolidated power into the hands of the minority. I’m so thankful people turned out to vote it down.

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        Issue 1 would have fundamentally changed how citizens can interact with our constitution by making voter initiatives almost impossible to pass.

        Honestly - I think it was about both, but the November ballot initiative was absolutely the catalyst. Why else would lawmakers call an August election (something recently abolished), out of a seemingly new concern about ballot initiatives? A power grab was absolutely the goal, but there’s a reason they tried for it now.

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    We should look at this data differently.

    Democrats should figure out why they are uncompetitive in those Red counties even though there are enough people out there who agree with Dems on at least some of these issues. They should be leveraging that common issue to try to win those counties over.