Lebanon, once thought of as among the most liberal parts of the Middle East, is poised to ban global hit movie “Barbie.” More conservative Kuwait said Wednesday that it had gone ahead with a ban due to its promotion of homosexuality.

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    It’s disgusting that homosexuality is seen as such an abhorrent thing in this day and age. Are all humans not capable of love? If the answer is a resounding yes, then why are we stopping consenting adults from expressing this? Because of some archaic scripture from thousands of years ago? Excuse my French here, Lebanon, but kindly get to fuck.

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    Even if it was the case, what’s wrong about homosexuality? Who the fuck cares who fuck who? We have one life. Let people live like they fucking want. End of the story, end of the argument. If there’s a god, let that god be the judge of it. The rest is none of your god damn business

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      This is actually a good argument for these cultists. Are you playing god now? Let him punish these evil people minding their own business

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        As a Muslim I can understand arguments stemming from liberalism, but this one makes no sense. Islam is pretty clear about what should be done with known homosexuals, and leaving them alone isn’t it. Again, I can understand not agreeing with the principle from the start, but the “let God deal with it” is illogical.

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          It’s not even about “liberalism” or “conservative” mentality. It’s just common sense really. How the fuck does homosexuals hurt you in any way? Nothing. They don’t hurt anybody. They cannot magically turn you gay, you are born gay - or not. That’s all. Now this will never stop being a thing. It was a thing 25,000 years ago, it will be a thing in 25,000 years from there, it’s a thing in the animal kingdom, it’s not a disease you can transmit, nobody ever turned gay at 40 years old like “sheesh fuck vaginas, I like penis now”. Like what the fuck? If you are against homosexuals, you are pretty much against whatever god your parents told you to believe in, because it’s natural. It’s a creation of said gods.

          The more people figure that out, the faster we can actually focus on real issues that ARE actually affecting us all; economy, inflation, climate change, job crisis, pandemics, heat waves, hurricanes, healthcare, etc. THOSE ARE REAL CONCERNS IN THE REAL WORLD.

          Drop the fucking stupid bullshit with gays, lesbians, abortions and religions, those are all non-issues that doesn’t matter in the end. This isn’t 1532, we are in 2023 for fuck sake

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            It’s not even about “liberalism” or “conservative” mentality. It’s just common sense really. How the fuck does homosexuals hurt you in any way? Nothing. They don’t hurt anybody.

            Yes, that’s what I meant by liberalism. The idea that as long as you don’t harm people around you you should be allowed to do whatever, also called the harm principle. Anyway, I’m not here to debate moral systems; just saying that the attempt I replied to was weak even if you agree with the conclusion.

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                As long as you’re being consistent. But sadly, I don’t think that’s possible. I wish people could just use their heads instead of following some dumbshit set of rules written thousands of years ago, but unfortunately it’s not really gonna happen.

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              It was a factor in my leaving my birth faith. Seeing the differences between what the books said and how people acted and the how modern morality didn’t match up with the books.

              Morality, like everything else, evolves. Religions try to freeze it in a fixed place. Fetishizes the past, making the living enslaved to the dead. Mohammed and Jesus and Moses and the Buddha are to be perfect people for us.

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    I have seen the movie, and I am still wondering where it is supposed to promote homosexuality. Neither Barbie nor Ken give any such vibes. Only thing Ken seems to suffer is a permanent case of blue balls, even if he lacks the equipment…

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      You’re assuming that they’re honest about their reasons, which is not the case.

      The main message of the film (besides being a 2h ad for Mattel) is gender equality and female empowerment.

      This threatens these people more than homosexuality, but I imagine even for them saying “we don’t want our women to even imagine a world where they’re not subservient to men” would be a tough sell.

      Far fewer people are willing to stand up to defend the LGBT community so they’re a convenient scapegoat (‘conservatives’ will always find a group small enough to target in order to push their unpopular policies, it just works).

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    Lmao. Just goes to show that even the most “liberal” part of the Middle East is still a shithole country.

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      Lebanon is not liberal, their homosexuality law is still on the books and 80% of the country is opposed to normalizing homosexuality.

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    I’m confused. Who in Barbie is gay? Kens whole thing is he’s utterly obsessed with her…

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      I’m guessing that it’s due to general flamboyance? Ken saying he’s going to “beach off” the other Ken and wearing pink may have triggered their 4th grade cooties sensor.

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      Yeah honestly as a gay woman myself I thought there wasn’t enough LGBT representation. Apparently there are two barbies who kiss on a couch at one point but it was so quick I didn’t see it, my friend had to tell me about it. There really wasn’t a lot of any sort of sexuality in the movie. Which makes sense, they don’t have genitalia.

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    Imagine getting this worked up about a movie for little girls.

    You should still go watch it, it’s a good movie, or so I’ve heard.

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    I mean lebanon is slowly becoming more progressive if it wasn’t for it’s government that is corrupt as hell. Though many smart lebanese just leave for western nations because the standard of living is higher even if your broke.

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    Lebanon is a corrupt nation, $70 billion in funds robbed from citizens’ accounts, just toady, U.S. Treasury sanctions imposed on the bank governor, Riad Corrupt Salameh, and a privileged corrupt class that appears more inclined to witness the nation’s devastation than to accept responsibility. A significant portion of the population grapples with poverty, struggling to afford even basic sustenance, let alone the luxury of viewing films prohibited by a corrupt Lebanese government. Conversely, Kuwait possesses the world’s most valuable currency and boasts a substantial sovereign wealth fund approaching the trillion-dollar mark. With unparalleled purchasing prowess, they could outmatch Warner Bros. effortlessly should they choose to do so.

    https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/jy1687

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    A lot of country looks beautiful to visit, especially in middle-east, but governed by fascists or homophobes or whatever, it’s sad :-(