The Council on American Islamic Relations said the allegation was that the teacher had remarked, “I do not negotiate with terrorists,” when the Palestinian American student asked for a seat change.
Recent U.S. incidents involving children include the attempted drowning of a 3-year-old Palestinian American girl in Texas and the fatal stabbing of a 6-year-old Palestinian American boy in Illinois.
Other incidents include the stabbing of a Palestinian American man in Texas, the beating of a Muslim man in New York, a violent mob attack on pro-Palestinian protesters in California and the shooting of three Palestinian American students in Vermont.
Just gonna add here that Reuter’s downgrading of the word “terrorist” to “extremist” is a load of BS.
This is a weird item to add in the “context” section, Reuters:
Incidents raising alarm over antisemitism include threats of violence against Jews…
Feels spot on for what they’ve been doing
She said “I don’t negotiate with terrorists”. People say that all the time as a joke. I’m not sure if the kid being Palestinian is the reason she said that.
Yes. They say that sort of thing as a joke to their friends, not to a child who they have a shitload of power over. Especially not a child who just wants to sit somewhere else.
What the fuck is wrong with you? I sure as fuck hope you aren’t in any position where you have to interact with children on a regular basis.
Yeah, I can’t envision a context that would make this an appropriate thing to say.
It’s obviously not appropriate to say to a student, but it also happens to be a colloquial expression used quite often as a generic joke response to exactly those types of requests.
That phrase alone means almost nothing since it’s used much more widely than it appears on the surface. The context is inappropriate, but that doesn’t mean the phrase was at all intended that way.
If the child were white would we be having this same conversation as it is? If the teacher was saying it to a friend outside work instead, would it be different?
If the child were white would we be having this same conversation as it is?
Would you say the same thing if this was a black kid and the teacher refused to let them move because they were being too uppity?
Divorcing atrocities from context is a great way to deny they happen.
Depends, are we using the same phrase that’s been separated from its origin in colloquial use? Because that’s the distinction I’m making. That the phrase usage itself being tied to the racial aspect here is flimsy specifically because the phrase is widely used outside of that racial context.
So if we remove the specific thing that links the phrase here to be so bad, the racial link, would the situation be viewed differently? I don’t think it would be nearly the same. The usage in the context of teacher/student is obviously bad, it’s not an appropriate location for the phrase in any context, but that has nothing to do with the race of the student. Without more context to show it should be related, like previous racist comments from the teacher, simply assuming it is related just taints objective analysis of the situation.
Calling a Palestinian child a terrorist isn’t fucking colloquial. Why would you even suggest such a thing? What a bigoted fucking thing to say. There’s nothing flimsy here at all.
Pretending like it isn’t bigoted by divorcing it from context is fucking stupid. Without context, calling a child a monkey is fine. With context, calling a black child a monkey is bigoted as fuck. And I’m sure you’re not stupid, so you know that and are just trying to excuse what this awful racist teacher did.
Or do you call black children monkeys because calling a white child a monkey isn’t racist?
I think calling a black child a monkey without that being part of an established pattern or without reason would be racist, sure.
But if a whole kindergarten class was acting crazy, and a teacher said they were acting like moneys, and that class happened to have a black child in it, I wouldn’t think they were racist for calling that black child a monkey.
And if a news story ran that had the headline, “racist teacher calls black child a monkey,” and those were the facts presented, I’d call it rage bait.
So the question of whether this child was singled out and called a terrorist with racial intent, or we just have a teacher using a normal phrase with no racial intent seems a relevant point.
Where do you people come from where “I don’t negotiate with terrorists” is a normal phrase that teachers say to children?
I don’t even know any adults who have said something like that to each other in years.
The kid wouldn’t even have gotten the reference because they were born many years after Bush was in office.
You are internally ignoring my point, notably that the racial aspect you want to focus on may not be related AT ALL to the usage of the phrase.
You are assuming that race is related, and it might be, but the phrase is used all the time without actual terrorism being involved, so blindly assuming it is means you instantly discount alternative scenarios without considering them. Just because there appears to be a link on the sirface, that doesn’t mean there actually is.
No point in trying to discuss it further since you clearly aren’t actually trying to have a real conversation about it.
I am not ignoring your point, I am just disagreeing with it. But your idea that people who disagree with you don’t want to discuss things with you is noted.
You’re right, but some classrooms have actual terrorism. The students will scream, throw chairs, stab pencils, etc if they don’t get their way.
And in many cases the teachers can’t do anything. The principal may very well not give a damn at all and require the teachers to not only deal with it, but not report it.
I’ve seen this happen.
These people have never worked with kids. Ask any teacher, kids are terrorists. Probably shouldn’t say it to their face though.
