• Lenny@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Little old lady spends 20 months in prison for blocking a main road and being mad at rich people.

    President of the United States, insurrectionist, creep, man who suggested he’d got a Nazi to hack the elections, certified felon, spends ZERO months in prison and gets to have a party.

    This is why I smoke weed.

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    Some time ago a politician in my country announced they would start treating the people who protested at highways harsher. She said “people think these people are just protestors, but they’re criminals”* and that they were “damaging the rule of law”*.

    * Translated

    Earlier on Tuesday, the College for Human Rights ruled that the right to demonstrate is “under serious pressure” due to the arrests of activists. They had called for the blockade of the important thoroughfare.

    Yesilgöz does not respond to this criticism. She says that the Ministry of Justice and Security will look into it together with the Ministry of the Interior. The ministry is already looking into the right to demonstrate, about which reports have been published *2.

    /* 2 They’re currently looking into methods to restrict the right to demonstrate.

    It’s honestly really worrying how people just accept and even approve of these actions. It’s not just because people are being inconvenienced, almost everyone I spoke to never noticed it themselves and that’s honestly the scary part.

  • But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world
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    Anyone who blocks roads to protest is just fucking with the little people. Go block billionaires driveways or their offices, don’t bother and piss off other regular people you want on your side

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    I want people to hear my valid point of view so I am going to obstruct them from carrying out everyday tasks to see if that inclines them to listen and the publicity will mark us out as reasonable people.

    Edit, I undeleted the original comment otherwise unchanged for reference, it was glib but reasonable I think. I believe the woman to be acting in good faith but misled.

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      Meh, at least they care about something and they’re willing to suffer the consequences to get the message out. I hope I have that much passion in my late 70s; it seems like most people don’t have any passion at all.

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        You talk in this way about disruption because you do not know what it can become. If you allow this sort of disruptive behaviour then by your own admittance I can come and disrupt your family to any extent I choose if I have unilaterally arrived at some higher rationale for it in my mind. Understand those laws and societal pressures that inhibit such disruption are there for a reason and if you get rid of them be sure you can stand up against the gale that will blow across the country.

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          by your own admittance I can come and disrupt your family to any extent I choose

          I’m pretty sure protests, disruptive as they can be, are very different than personally attacking or otherwise bothering an individual and their family.

          That’s some crazy “logic” you’re working with there.

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            She was laying in the road impeding traffic, what about the individual child alone at the school gates because their parent is unable to reach them. It is you that is using selective logic, if you allow any unlawful act you allow them all.

            • UrPartnerInCrime@sh.itjust.works
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              What about all the people that die from climate change? The food stolen from communities cause the water is polluted from fracking? The children who can’t go outside and jump in puddles cause of toxic rain. What about the loss of animal lives cause the air is too toxic? What about all the terrible things and death that follow the big polluters as they go?

              All that’s allowed though, right? Cause the police say it’s ok. And since the law doesn’t stop them, all those deaths and destroyed land are fine according to you. Just as long as you can make it to school, right?

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                The woman in the article is from England and I am too and I can not argue this anymore because the thread is overly replied to by American liberals who are just so universally indoctrinated by corporations to work against themselves. Moving towards renewable energy is probably the noblest cause of the modern world but these protest groups are corporate guided to nullify themselves and make the public see their views as crackpot. Do you think the corporations became as powerful as they are by sitting in the fucking road. No they marshalled their powers and lobbied governments. That is how change is effected by law, to implement unlawful means is to invite chaos which makes all your effort impotent. It would be remarkably easy and inexpensive to switch over almost entirely to renewables and the oil industry knows it so it makes you look like clowns, so no one listens to you. And you swallow it completely and put on your red noses and dance around for them.

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                  Everything you want to happen continually gets stopped by said polluters. The nice way has been tried over and over. But those don’t get talked about. But because some people decided to just sit in the road, more people are talking about it.

                  Sitting in the road isn’t done to get results. It’s done to get people to talk about what is happening as they won’t and haven’t otherwise.

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      They are protesting climate change caused by oil use by blocking a bunch of people burning oil in their cars. Sounds like the group of people that need to hear the message no? Those protestors and you are the same, stop putting them into some sort of “unreasonable person” group.