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    Unfortunately, this time around the majority of AI build up are GPUs that are likely difficult to accomodate in a random build.

    If you want a GPU for graphics, well, many of them don’t even have video ports.

    If your use case doesn’t need those, well, you might not be able to reasonably power and cool the sorts of chips that are being bought up.

    The latest wrinkle is that a lot of that overbuying is likely to go towards Grace Blackwell, which is a standalone unit. Ironically despite being a product built around a GPU but needing a video port, their video port is driven by a non-nvidia chip.

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      My use case is for my own AI plans as well as some other stuff like mass transcoding 200TB+ of…“Linux ISOs” lol. I already have power/cooling taken care of for the other servers I’m running

      I’ve already got my gaming needs satisfied for years to come (probably)

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    I believe it is likely that there will be a burst at some point, just as with the dot-com burst.

    But I think many people wrongly think that it will be the end of or a major setback for AI.

    I see no reason why in twenty years AI won’t be as prevalent as “dot-com’s” are now.

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      I agree, history always repeats itself. But perhaps the timing is different, it could be 20 years, 10 years, or 50 years who knows

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    There may be a dip in prices for a bit, but since covid, more companies have realized they can get away with manufacturing fewer units and selling them for a higher price.

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    The AI bubble burst is gonna wreck the market and send us into another recession. Especially if the crypto bubble bursts at a similar time.

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      Those in charge brought it on themselves. They can’t see through their own hype and lies and cult-like worship. It’s the rest of us that will hurt the most though.

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        That’s the best case scenario. I’m imagining something more like Enron or Bernie Madoff - losing all value at once when people realized it was a ponzi scheme.

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          Hard disagree.

          The dot-com burst would be worst case scenario and I think that’s a long chance.

          I understand that some people hate AI or that they feel threatened by it, but I can only imagine that those who say it has no real value are either being facetious or have extremely limited cognitive capacity.

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            I’m worried their operating costs are higher than they admit. They keep dumbing down the AI to make it use less energy. Right now it’s a free product that uses a crazy high amount of electricity. They don’t seem all that close to profitability.

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              AI is in it’s “biplane” stage, just as people in the twenties would have found it hard to comprehend the future of commercialised flight or a man on the moon, people struggle to imagine the future of AI.

              AI is the very worse it’s going to be today, in the grand scheme of things, it’s only going to get better.

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    How much if a discount are you expecting to start gaming on a 30k card with no video output?

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      Not for gaming, for running AI open source models and other AI shenanigans. My 4080 Super has been filling my gaming needs and will for years to come, but it’s not enough for my AI interests lol

      The most I can get out of this 4080 is running a ~7B param model, but I want to run cooler shit like that new open source DeepSeek v3 that dropped the other day.

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        So you’re waiting for the AI bubble to burst because you can’t wait to run all the cool new AI models?

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          Yea, the underlying tech is what interests me and I have a few potential use cases. Use cases that I would never entrust a random company with. For example, the concept of MS recall is cool, I’d never trust Microshits implementation though. But an open source local version that I’m in control of all the security implementations? Hell yea lol

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            That’s the problem. If the use case is super cool, and 99% of people have no knowledge (or motivation) to set it up for themselves, the online services will keep existing, and the bubble won’t really burst.

            Even if some single companies fail (and they will, there some truly horrendous ideas getting funding), the big players will buy the GPUs wholesale before they hit ebay.

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      Multiple outlets including LTT and Gamers Nexus have debunked this.

      The only thing you may have to do if you notice unusual performance is reapply thermal paste to the GPU, and that’s only because most thermal paste will dry out after years of sitting around or being used

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    Lol no, I mean it would be a bubble if it didn’t provide anything useful, or transformative, but that’s far from the truth.

    Like it or not, even LLMs have been found to help in health treatments, mental support , workplace efficiency and so on

    AI is here to stay, it’s basically the next industrial revolution

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    Why the hell would you want to buy a used gpu that’s been burnt through its lifespan by an AI or crypto bro?

    That’s a bad, horrible idea.