Summary
Five years after Brexit, its promises of sovereignty, economic gains, and reduced migration remain unfulfilled. While Brexit offers regulatory flexibility, its overall impacts are largely negative.
The UK economy has suffered a £100bn annual output loss, with GDP 4% smaller than it would have been without Brexit.
Trade barriers have reduced exports, particularly to the EU, with small businesses and sectors like agriculture and fishing hit hardest.
Migration has surged to record levels, but net EU migration has turned negative.
Public dissatisfaction is high, with 59% believing Brexit has gone poorly.
My current and former workplace both took huge hits and ended up cutting staff because it suddenly became super expensive to import raw materials, and more difficult and expensive to export finished goods. But it’s ok because some retired boomers get to shout ‘taking our country back’ then blame foreigners for anything negative that happens
Brexiteers promised a new age of British sovereignty
And now farage wants to flog the country off to trump and musk
But half a decade on, and by many metrics, Brexit appears to have missed the mark
What mark? There was never a mark just a whole pack of lies.
The problem with the modern media is that they frame everything in the context of money. Thus they ignore that the Britons joined just for the economy. They are a staunchly capitalist country that never managed to fit within the EU spirit. They kept resisting the integration and asking opt-outs for every initiative. During the exit process they acted as spoilt children, they absorbed all the attention and time of the European council and brought all the other activities nearly to a standstill. All of that tedious process ended up with a partial exit, the UK is still standing on the edge with one foot in and another out.
At this point I think that the best thing to do to stop crying over the spilled milk and do not even dare to think to come back, it would be just a pain for everybody.
Nah let us back in but as a standard new member without any of the special shit, please our government needs adult supervision.
The UK would just become another Hungary.
What about abandoning the pound sterling?
Not sure why people are so hung up about it, it’s been gradually losing ground to the euro and usd anyway.
The more old bullshit gets erased in the process the better.
Those old twats and the dumb younger voters fucked everyone over… However maybe if there is a silver lining it’s that if/when the UK rejoins (pretty much if it wants a real future) it should be on equal terms and forced to behave as such.
Maybe we could finally elevate our status from the shit stained toffs of Europe.
Nah let us back in
Those who don’t know history are doomed to repeat it.
It hurt itself in its confusion
Brexit was a mistake? Who’d have thought it?
The real irony is that age was a huge factor in voting - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36616028.amp
So the folks getting a lot of the flak today are more likely to be remainers, I wonder how that’s going to pan out in the long run (spoiler, it’ll go as well as Brexit).
The ones cleaning up the mess in the UK are not the ones who voted for it - keep that in mind.
Knowing very little about UK politics and even less five years ago I seem to remember casually analyzing leaving the EU as a dumb idea but what do I know.
Everyone with an IQ over room temperature knew leaving the EU was a losing move for everyone but the oligarchs looking to snap up businesses for cheap. They’re intentionally driving the UK economy into the ground so they can snap everything up in a fire sale knowing that their wealth is safely protected in foreign investments. They’re trying the same playbook over in the US now. Trump will tank the US economy (not to mention gut the anti-monopoly regulations) and then the megacorps will start gobbling.
Has Brexit cost them anything politically? Or is it still the exact same bullshit as before Brexit happened? Sure seems like nothing has changed.
We really do live in a post-truth era. Zizek was right when Snowden dropped his docs. He said based on the response to the Iraq War torture leaks, he didn’t expect anything to change. That big disclosures mean basically nothing now. God damn it he was so fucking right.
People remember Chelsea Manning not for exposing war crimes, but for the crime of being trans. Checks out.
The AfD in Germany, currently propped up by Musk in the form of Alice Weidel, whose modus operandi is demagoguery wants the Brexit analogue Dexit. She was granted a 15 minute interview by bloomberg a few days ago. Basically every statement was a blantant lie. She proposed free trade regulatories for Germany without being in the EU. Every statement of hers was a lie. And she was frenetically endorsed by EU/German politics oblivious US MAGA heads and Nazis in the comments. All of her proposals would bring Germany and with it possibly huge parts of Europe to its knees and open the door widely for russian interference. I wrote a 6000 character fact-check under the video and garnered 3300 likes for it in one day. Yesterday it was deleted. It was a good run but I think Europe is damned. I partially blame covid brain rot for it.
Don’t forget the kremlin.
Kremlin propaganda fell on frugal soil here in Germany. Especially the former GDR. I’d wager most liberals/lefts/social-democrats and even conservatives are pro-Ukraine here. And I’d wager that it’s most of them. I still have hope Musks endeavours can’t break the mental firewalls against fascism German education has tried to build in the heads of people, though it’s definitely broken even in West-Germany.
More than 52% of British people in 2016 and still more than many now, I bet. I always supported Remain but before I voted I wanted to do my due diligence and re-evaluate. It took googling “brexit pros and cons” and all of 5 minutes reading a BBC infographic to confirm that basically everything the leave campaign said was completely and utterly wrong.
The fact that most people still voted for it despite the obvious lies was way more disappointing to me than the racism. Back then I thought better of people.
basically everything the leave campaign said was completely and utterly wrong.
Which is why spreading public lies with the intention to mislead the public should be a criminal offence.
If they were selling any physical goods, that would be a fraudulent misrepresentation. I don’t see why the bar in politics should be any lower.
It should be a hell of a lot higher, but the people with the power to change it are the only people who would be punished, so…
Not disagreeing with you here but I think this is THE action to push, as much as everyone is able to.
The real price the UK will pay for Brexit should not be measured (and will probably not be remembered) in economic terms.
So which politician have enough balls to say out loud UK needs to rejoin the EU?
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