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Apps went away, so did I.
No idea what people mean with „winning“. Clickbaity stuff.
They mean the last of the big protesting subs finally stopped their protest rules. The places with rules saying you had to post John Oliver, or everything is nsfw, or any of the other stuff that popped up as a protest 2 months ago is now gone. In pet because admins slashed the mod teams and replaced them with cronies
Which is hilarious because the new mods have no clue what the fuck they’re doing, and the content creators have left to places like here. So now it’s like a bunch of 15 year olds posting shit.
I’d like to introduce the gizmodo.com writers to the term Pyrrhic victory. One look at /r/all and it’s become nothing but reposts and memes that are hours, if not days old.
Reddit drove out its most important users - the moderators and content creators. They have enough old content to keep their viewership for awhile, but they’ll never regain the community trust they’ve lost. And this will continue to kill their influx of new material, which will inevitably erode the viewer base.
Do I think reddit will die? No, it will continue on, just as have slashdot and fark and other staple communities from the same era, but the highwater mark of the community as the “front page of the internet” is long past.
To be fair, it’s been like that for a while. Just look at /r/videos. #11 sub on reddit. 30 million subscribers.
Right now:
- 3k online
- top post is 18hrs old, 3k upvotes, 200 comments.
- second top post is 10hrs old, 65 upvotes, 11 comments. This little thread we’re in has more comments and will likely soon have more upvotes. This magazine has 1000 subscribers. /r/videos claims to have 30 million. It doesn’t add up.
I strongly suspect reddit is lying about the true numbers. If you factor in repost bots, porn bots, and bots which increasingly repost comments from previous posts or comments from off site, reddit often feels abandoned.
Subreddits like /r/videos? Everyone left for tiktok.
Just look elsewhere on the site. Supposedly they have 500 million regular users, but if that’s the case why is no one upvoting or commenting on anything? And it’s summer, so the kids have far more free time.
But of course they’re not upvoting or commenting, they’re all on tiktok or wherever. Reddit has become a legacy social media.
Obviously, the fediverse is even more niche, but we’re not pretending to be incredibly popular and don’t need to boost our numbers for a looming IPO.
Agreed - I think that the trend was in play already. The protests tapped into it and definitely accelerated it, but the decline in the quality of posting and commentary has been steadily increasing since 2015. I personally mark the sudden popularity of The_Donald as the point at which the community started to die - the influx of Russian trolls, bots, and their 4chan goon squads was the beginning of the end for intelligent discussion on the site in my opinion.
In addition, the fallout is not over. Until recently I was using a 3rd party app that was only barred from signing in to reddit, I was still able to read and navigate the website. Now it seems that they have cut that access off so that drove me to create an account here.
I’ll still use reddit whenever I’m at my pc on weekdays, but if content moves elsewhere I will likely follow and wean off reddit further.
Welcome!
Slashdot is actually a fairly active community that was never aspiring to be the “front page of the internet”. As far as I can tell, it’s about as popular as it ever was. And Fark isn’t much different…slighlty less users than in the past, but they have some active content creators.
The comparison you’re looking for is Digg. That was the previous “front page of the internet” before they committed suicide and handed the title to Reddit. Now they are a news aggregate site where almost all content is created by bots. This is the path Reddit is travelling down. Completely curated, AI generated, with bots commenting to create the illusion of engagement. It’s almost there now. The amount of reposted content and copied comments has increased substantially over the last few years. And with the availability of LLMs now, it will only get worse.
Wait until the IPO, if it ever happens. The site will transform into a news aggregator ran by bots. No one will care about it anymore once Spez cashes out, or if he can’t then the entire thing will implode dramatically. Just like Digg.
Lol - shows you how old I am. There was a point, pre-Digg and pre-Reddit, where Slashdot was the premiere news aggregation site (circa 2000 - 2004) followed closely by Fark.com as the premiere shitposting site… mainly because they were the first to use the post/commentary style that made Reddit and Digg so popular. Slashdot didn’t aspire to this point of prominence - they simply assumed it because there was nothing else out there at the time that was as good.
You’re correct that when Reddit and Digg came on the scene, they pretty much erased the concept of Slashdot or Fark being the “frontpage of the internet”. Neither site died, as you note, and Slashdot in particular continued to maintain an active community that persists to this day by keeping their content tech-focused and not fucking with the user experience that made them popular in the first place.
I chose Fark and Slashdot as examples because I think unlike Digg (which just completely collapsed), I do see Reddit communities persisting in a similar reduced form.
Reddit most certainly did not win. Win what, anyway? Many long-time users and moderators left the platform.
People are spineless pussies, that’d rather bend over to a devil, than let go their convenience and select an alternative.
More news at 5.
You can’t tell a drug addict to start drinking coffee instead of using (add drug name here), you know.
In other words – those folk are so addicted to Reddit they won’t leave it even if reddit started charging a dollar for each time they post.
I mean I don’t think any of the people protesting actually thought ‘yes, Reddit is absolutely going to back down as a result of the protests no question!’
What I think is pretty cool is that what was initially only going to be a two day black out that (from memory) 6000 subs signed up for turned into something much, much bigger. And got the CEO to say some pretty stupid things in black and white to the press to boot. It’s done much more than it set out to do.
‘Fuck Spez’ was a stupid meme though. Should have been ‘Fire Huffman’ or something that meant something outside of Reddit users.
Reddit wasn’t going to die. Wasn’t about winning and losing. It was about making people aware of the bad business practice running in the background and trying to get them to change. Also, it would have been much better if there was a clear alternative offered. I only found out about Lemmy through a friend. Never saw anything about it throughout the protest.
You can’t unfuck that chicken.
We know the corporation thinks it can own a community.
We saw how the corporation treats people who put in immense quantities of work, FOR FREE, making the site worth using.
These dumb motherfuckers made it impossible for me to come back without it feeling like a betrayal. I’m out. Sixteen years last month, and I am just fuckin’ done. Any time I’m there again is either an accident, or an effort to preserve my own goddamn records from the last decade and a half.
Digg losing to reddit didn’t mean Digg went away. The empty box was never the point. It’s the users, stupid. And the people who just want a safe spot to shoot the shit with one another don’t need some fucking asshole deciding they’re doing it wrong. Certainly not if that useless whipped bastard declares that half the goddamn site will be ignored, when they demand the tiniest concession to reality. Do they know what reddit is for?! The whole website is predicated on democratized opinion, gated by moderator approval, and this absolute dolt brushed aside all levels of power, to declare that no action could possibly change one iota of corporate say-so.
K bye, fuckhead. Good luck with your box full of trolls and bots. Hope your IPO goes swimmingly, now that we’ve all seen the revenue-per-user figures putting reddit somewhere below advertising on bus-stop benches, before a critical mass of regulars just fuckin’ bounced.
And then you deleted all the money people gave you directly.
I literally don’t care anymore. I should thank these greedy corporations, I’m spending more time in my workshop, making furniture, read more, using all this little off-time over the day much better. As I see it, we won. People. Gotta go now, a kitchen cabinet wants to have it’s final touches.
Yeah Reddit won but the Reddit users lost. Lost access to awesome apps most of all. I personally think it’s fair for Reddit to charge for API access but it seems hardheaded to charge orders or magnitude more per user than they make on their own platform through advertising. I currently only use Reddit on desktop because I’m not going to use their crappy official app. Indeed I lost out, congrats Spez on your victory. In the meantime I’m on Lemmy more than I used to be and I hardly ever comment on Reddit posts anymore.
Just visited a moment ago to check if I received my Place awards for placing FUCK SPEZ pixels. Couldn’t access my profile page without turning off adblock. They just keep giving me more and more reasons not to return.
I doubt even barely started. Most people on Reddit right now looking at the numbers and having short sighted opinions like “oh look, nothing has changed. It must have been some vocal minority all along.” Unaware most site utilize bots for that exact reason. Bots or couple of paid people cannot emulate authenticity. People will start seeing these in time.
Reddit’s attention span is minimal, just as that of the general public. There’s a reason something like “the news cycle” exists. People forget, especially when they don’t care.
Reddit won guys. They won a lower valuation lmao.
There is no “win” here, Tim – only losers.
