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      Did they do another one for the Madison accusations? Was it on the same level as the other one?

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        No. They are back to their regularly scheduled programming. Their recent apology videos aren’t even in their top25 most viewed

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    Veritasium has really gone down hill. I honestly think it started when he did the video on “clickbait” and actually realized how much more lucrative it was to make shittier clickbaity content than make straightforward science content.

    It went from “here’s why magnetism is just electric field + relativity” to “I buried myself in cement - you won’t believe what happens!”

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      ??? His recent videos have been nothing but great. His knot, IQ, Oppenheimer, entropy, and maze solving videos (and more) are all recent and amazing videos. What’s your criticism against him?

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        I think the problem here is that Veritasium these days now covers popular (possibly overrated) science-y topics rather than actually interesting (but not so popular) science content to stay on the radar. It’s about the covered topic, not the quality.

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          I think you hit the nail on the head. I’m fairly knowledgeable in the natural sciences, but I still used to learn a lot from watching his videos. These days, more often than not my reaction is just “well thats obvious”. It reminds me of the MythBusters episode when they shot a ball out of the back of a moving truck, and when they confirmed the ball dropped without moving, Carrie just sarcastically said “Yay we did vector addition…”

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          Knot theory, entropy and maze solving are things most people don’t know about though. If this critique is pointed at the Oppenheimer video because there was a popular movie then I would say that it’s ok to talk about something trending if most of his videos are relatively niche.

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      I thought his most recent knots video was pretty interesting, way more interesting than i anticipated from the clickbait title.

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        I thought it was interesting, too, but I didn’t really learn anything from it. He just doesn’t go into the same depth he used to.

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          True, that is a fair argument, I didn’t learn anything either, except how knots are counted, but that is pretty surface level, and kind of common sense if you think about it for more than 2 minutes.

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    I love how Dunkey had a week where he did this sarcastically – and they still ended up being some of his most popular videos. Thankfully he’s stayed himself though and not abandoned what he does best.

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    Ugh, I used to follow a wildlife channel. The head of their YouTube had a kid, and then every other video was her repeating “can you say jackal?” over and over and OVER. I’m here for wildlife videos, not to watch your kid ignore the camera getting shoved in their face. But everyone was super positive towards the first kid video and she thought it was encouragement. For shame.

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      And of course head of youtube did youtube things. “Cute kid video” costs pennies on the dollar compared to capturing and editing wild life videos. So even if they got a measly 10% of the views they probably saw it as good business.

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    Jerma985 was my most favoritest TF2 youtuber, and now look him, a big streamer with wide meme reach. I remember the first Jerma Rumbles, the pinnacle of simulated wrestling and the first inklings of his creative genius. I don’t watch streams and I don’t watch VODs, but I’m just happy he’s shooting for the stars.

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      I stopped watching after I met him at a convention one time.

      I tried to say that I was a fan but every time I opened my mouth he just said ‘HUH? HUH?’ over and over, before he grabbed my Nintendo Labo keyboard, threw it on the ground and stamped on it a bunch of times.

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      Same here, I stopped watching Jerma after he stopped posting TF2 content, but I’m glad he’s made it and is still doing a bunch of cool stuff.

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    Or they made good edited youtube videos and then they starting chasing the streaming trend like Critikal and other youtubers I used to watch. Sorry I want to watch a single 10-30 min video once or twice a week and not hours of unscripted rambling. The only person I can watch do that is Nothernlion but even then I don’t watch most of his content anyway.

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      The only reason shit like that even succeeds is probably because people put on live streams as background noise

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      hours of unscripted rambling

      i actually really enjoy long form interviews. i watch 5 hour interviews and want more, but not everyone can host them and only a certain kind of content is good long form.

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        I haven’t watched a streamer yet that could pull it off except NL. People get into this young with no education or lived life outside of streaming and honestly it’s a pain listening to them try to be relatable to talk about something for hours. Even NL starts getting tiring after the 5000th take on peloton.

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          I’m not sure what a “steamer” is. Is it video game related only?

          The content that I watch is for 40+. The example that I was thinking about was of Mormon stories podcast host. He has a phd in psychology. Hearing him interview ex Mormons is really interesting. I always learn something about myself during 5 hour interviews.

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            Streamers usually people who play games for 4-8+ hours almost every day with a face cam and a running chat. Twitch is the main website for these people.

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        LTT’s WAN show pulls of (maybe 2/3rds the time) 3-4 hour streams with only outlines of recent news and a live-feed of merch messages as direction.

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      Adam Ragusea is the worst for this.

      Title: interesting topic.

      Video: 3 hours of rambling with five minutes of addressing interesting topic.

      I could hardly stand his actual videos before but at least he experimented and showed some conventions to be useless traditions but recently it’s really been garbage long form rambling.

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        Stuff like this is why I love the new-ish feature in YouTube to see the most popular areas of a video. I can skip all the BS and jump right to the 30 seconds the title referenced. What would be even better is people not making hour long videos about nothing and making a title that makes it sound like 30 seconds of the video is the whole thing.

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    I’ve been watching ZFG (OoT streamer) for a while. Lately he’s only been playing Tears of the Kingdom, which… I don’t like or care about, much. Looks like he’s actually going to do runs of it, so it might be a while.

    Someone else already mentioned Joshua Weissman, “comedian” cook who refuses to realize he can’t sing and the “papa” thing is… cringe. Channel was much better when he didn’t try so hard to be funny. Cooking stuff itself is still fine though, he does know his stuff.

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      I guarantee you ZFG doesn’t give a single shit about “the algorithm” - he’s always played games that he wants to play, which is usually every Zelda release, Mario Kart, Smash, and Pokemon. His only two concerns are going fast and having fun.

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      Literally finally made an account to respond to you. I don’t really watch streams much anymore, but he has a main channel (highlights and records) and a VOD channel on YouTube. I used to go to sleep watching Clint Stevens every night, and now I use the VODs a lot of the time. Anyway, the point I was actually trying to make is that there is a ton of old content available if TotK isn’t doing it for you.

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    Fuck the algorithm. My favorite Youtubers still do quality videos, luckily, but now they take longer because they have to fill their channels periodically with less inspired stuff or the all-seeing algorithm will toss them out. I hate it.

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    I know this can be true, but a more predatory trend is Youtubers quitting because these vicious incentives are difficult to navigate compared to Twitch, Patreon, or a regular old career.

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    That happened to some Minecraft youtubers that I was subscribed to, they switched over to fortnite to appeal to young children and I unsubscribed from them

    They forgot about their original audience

    Edit: autocorrect caused typo

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      I mean it sucks but its clear enough of the “original” audience stuck around. Growth is important and only appealing to your og audience is a sentence for death if you are trying to make being an influencer a job. There is a reason why many influencers have to diversify even when they originally were primarily making videos of a single game because once that game popularity starts to drop, their audience is all they have and people simply “age out” of content and there is nothing wrong with that. Hell this isn’t only to influencers but to most products.

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        Absolutely agree with you there.

        Look at Jon Tron (ignoring his controversial parts) and PewDiePie. They kept adapting and growing.

        While people like cadi, peanut butter gamer and other og normal boots folks didn’t want to grow with their audience and change, and they have just flat lined in growth.

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    YouTubers and streamers aren’t your friends. They are just trying to make money.

    If you could switch jobs and make double your salary, would you? What about all your coworkers you’d be letting down by suddenly quitting? Oh well. You’re getting paid.

    If you work in retail or fast food or something you probably don’t give a shit about your coworkers, but if you’ve worked a production job on a small team, you know what I mean. And you still would taken double the salary for the same sort of work.

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      From how I’ve heard some YouTubers talk after doing something like this and living with it for a while, I don’t think it’s quite the same. They generally start the channel with something they care about and enjoy, then based on feedback that can shift… in many cases to something they don’t actually enjoy and isn’t fulfilling, and after hitting a breaking point they make a drastic change back or simply quit. It may take longer to build an audience if they stick to what they like, but those people will be a more true audience and the person can make what they want to make instead of feeling like they need to put on a mask. It’s less about being loyal to the audience and more about being loyal to themselves.

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    Sigh. This happened, sort of, to my favorite channel. It was a fun channel all about her hamsters - cute videos of their antics and informative videos of how to care properly for them. Then she got a chronic illness and switched to only posting about the illness and awareness of it. And that’s her prerogative. But she took down all the cute stuff. I was devastated. They were my go-to when I needed cheering up.

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      that’s how i got into watching people make art/do creative stuff with art. that always cheers me up… also lots of options.

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    It was gamegrumps for me. It started too feel to corpoare and not just 2 dudes on a couch. Censoring swearing removing numbers in episodes so you dont even know which order it is.