• verysoft@kbin.social
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    2 years ago

    The fact you need a 4090 to touch 120fps on 1080p in 2023 is disgusting. That should be the minimum target fps for mid range hardware at the least.
    Meh, game is bland anyway.

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      2 years ago

      The game is cpu bound so having a 4090 won’t do you much good if your Cpu can’t keep up, which is the problem most people have

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          It’s shitty code bound. Sometimes no matter how powerful your hardware is, software will perform poorly because it just doesn’t scale. Writing complex software like game so that it can fully utilize current hardware AND actually run faster with better CPU/GPU can become very difficult once a certain complexity threshold is reached. It’s easy enough to do for a small linear game even if it has exceptional graphics, but an open world sandbox game like ones that Bethesda makes is a completely different story.

          That doesn’t mean that it’s impossible of course - Bethesda absolutely should have made a better job, but it’s by no means an easy task.

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      2 years ago

      Games don’t feel like they’ve advanced very far in graphics since the witcher came out, I should still get 144fps on my 1080ti, if I’m honest.

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        But then people wouldn’t buy $1000 graphics cards all the time which isn’t very cash money for the industry

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      I was able to get a consistent 70+ fps with most things set to medium, 1440p with a 3900x and a rtx 2080 with dlss2 and a mod that helps performance without any noticable dregredarion I can tell.

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    Potatoes? You mean PCs with < $1000 GPUs?
    I’m not touching Starfield until I can play it at 1440p 60 fps with decent graphics (yes, actual 1440p, not “720p upscaled to 1440p” bullshit. Neither that nor 30 fps are acceptable to me).

    If Bethesda can’t be bothered to fix performance and I will need to wait years until I decide to upgrade so be it - I have plenty of great games in my “to play” list. By that time the will also be lots of mods to choose from to make Starfield worth it.

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      Wait a year for the modding community to finish it.

      When I first played Fallout 4 years ago, it ran at 20fps in some parts of the map and on medium.

      Playing it again now, modded to the max, ultra, higher res textures, 60fps everywhere.

      Same pc.

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        That’s the plan. I haven’t actually properly played F4 yet either lol (tried years ago but dropped due to performance issues). Probably will do it soon after spending a month modding it.

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          Did that on skyrim.

          Don’t know how much free time you have, but I couldn’t be bothered anymore for FO4 on nexus. I just downloaded one of the bigger/better collections and ignored/deactivated the creepier/boobier mods.

          Already more than enough of a hassle to get that working, with vortex sometimes not installing stuff properly, pre-cleaning files, etc.

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            I just enjoy that stuff lol. I only stopped my last Skyrim playthrough because I kept updating my mods and adding new ones and at the one point it just broke all of my saves. I took it as a sign to move on to other games.

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              Same, but realistically once you start heading towards the 500 mods range, it’s almost impossible to get it working reliably.

              At one point I had 200+ mods on skyrim, and the mod cycles and before/after conflicts on vortex looked like mandelas. I did enjoy ‘completing’ the vortex mod manager game. That’s when it’s 3AM, you’re fed up, you give up trying to figure what’s wrong, and just click randomly and uninstall/reinstall mods until vortex shuts up, and it somehow just works. Bit like winning the lottery.

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      It’s crazy to me that they make the same game for almost 20 years but still can’t make it work. The ai seems to get worse every game, computers get better and better but it still runs the same.

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        Just from a a couple of nights playing Starfield. The combat ai does seem more interesting then with enemies jumping off ledges to get to you etc but not but a whole heck of a lot. L

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    I’m playing with a Ryzen 5 and a 970 and it runs pretty smooth on low settings. I’m not a graphics whore though so I don’t mind the visuals on low.