• TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world
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    14 days ago

    FFS an air fryer is a heating element, fan, and thermostat.

    Why are any of them being built with online connectivity and data harvesting capabilities in the first place?!

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    14 days ago

    I only buy cheap shit. And I never, ever, ever ever ever connect anything to the net that doesn’t absolutely need to be connected.

    If I need an air fryer and the cheap one has smart shit on it. I will never connect that shit to the net. Never. Why the fuck would I? It’s an air fryer. Not a laptop.

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    14 days ago

    ‘Last year, we asked the public for their views on smart products in a series of workshops. People shared concerns that products collect too much personal information, and said that they feel powerless to control how their data is used and shared’

    Thank you to these people!

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    13 days ago

    P2P + IoT could be great for safety and privacy. We should just remove the middle men (datacentres, servers) so that data travels between the devices you own, and not via some data vampire trying to get in the way.

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    13 days ago

    Someone please make a Bluetooth equivalent for smart devices. My thermostat doesn’t need internet access but standardized wireless control is still a good feature

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    14 days ago

    Easy enough to enforce. Put all your IoT devices into their own subnet/VLAN with no Internet access. Then, you’ll quickly see which devices you need to replace, or just not use as “smart” devices.

    I have a ton of smart devices that don’t even connect to wifi at all. None of them have Internet access of any sort.

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      14 days ago

      Easy enough! except, that most people don’t even know what is a VLAN, let alone have any network device that supports it. It takes a special kind of router to have such settings, and no, OpenWRT is not the solution for that as they have limitations on the minimum amount of memory the device has to have

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        14 days ago

        So it’s a skill issue, then? Got it. Any old PC + a $10 pcie network adapter can be turned into a router capable of it.

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          14 days ago

          it is first and foremost a

          Hardware issue.

          but also who the fuck wants to have a power hungry PC as the router. old PC, so we can probably count with 80 W at the least

          but also, how the fuck would a PC help with the skill issue?

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            14 days ago

            It means you don’t know how to make it work. Last I checked, a used N100 all in one PC with dual Ethernet is cheaper than even most brand new consumer routers, and also sips watts.

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                13 days ago

                You can’t buy used on Amazon. I said used

                The largest majority of people also can’t be bothered to do a single shred of research before buying something. How is that anyone else’s problem but theirs?

                The best consumer protection comes from the consumer. Do a bit of research before you buy something.

                If you can’t be bothered to take a few extra minutes to do that, then quite frankly, you deserve to be fucked by scammers.

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                  If you can’t be bothered to take a few extra minutes to do that, then quite frankly, you deserve to be fucked by scammers.

                  and this is exactly how being fucked by scammers will become normal

                  stop with your fucking elitism and start thinking what to do for those whos work/hobby is not in IT, because that’s 99.999% of people.

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              13 days ago

              largest majority of smarthome shit users don’t know or care how computers work. are you willing to legally ban them from buying these garbage? or what is the solution?

              and then they need to set it up (wtf, they have issues navigating their phones), and get it maintained (updates)

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                13 days ago

                Again. That’s a lack of skill. Why is it my problem?

                If they can’t be bothered to do 5 minutes of research before buying something, that’s on them.

                Caveat emptor.

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                  13 days ago

                  Why is it my problem?

                  Because when manufacturers see that they can get away with this shit, they will all start doing it, and then you can stick up your research because there will be nothing else.