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    If “Vote for Educated Leaders” is truly a controversial statement, then we’re all fucked.

    Your leaders absolutely should be educated, not even necessarily in politics, but Bob next door who’s only got two neurons in his head fighting for third place shouldn’t be leading any country

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    I mean if he chose to communicate his preference, that’s a problem. But “Vote for educated leaders” shouldn’t be exactly controversial. If you’re angry, is it because you know the ppl that you voted for are uneducated?

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      Well that is where societies get to. Being educated or uneducated becomes equivalent to a political stance. There are plenty of examples of educators getting murdered by governments, sometimes en masse.

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        Pol Pot took it a step further and murdered anyone who wore glasses, because wearing glasses was seen as being educated.

        Authoritarians of every type hate the educated, because the educated often hate authoritarianism.

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        The CCP didn’t massacre a bunch of uneducated citizens in Tiananmen Square.

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        What’s more concerning is when a society is populated by people who have take the most facile understanding of a position, and then go about confidently as if they understand it. Like, say, if a news article has a rage porn headline and then people don’t read it to understand what actually was going on but make comments on websites as if there was no nuance to the subject whatsoever. … Very concerning.

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      He said, “Next time vote for someone who is well-educated so you don’t have to go through this again.” I agree with him, and moreover I think teachers should be allowed to express themselves because everything is political. But I can’t in good conscience argue that this was a politically-neutral statement. In particular, the words “Next time” are saying very plainly that he doesn’t think it went well this time. This is a political argument against the current ruling government.

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    It’s so incredibly sad how adults need to be reminded and told to vote for people that have a background with real education. I can’t believe people don’t care about education when it comes to voting for someone to be put in your government. I feel sorry for those people who don’t. You know it’s the people who don’t that have lives that revolve around politics and consume it everyday

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      Religion and education are two things that violate the law of supply and demand. The less of either that you have, the less you want.

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      This is what happened to Ontario, we have a high school dropout whose wealth came from operating strip clubs and his crack head brother managed to become mayor of Toronto… I fucking hate Onterrible

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        Sure, let’s not vote for the person that dedicated years on studying history, sociology, economics and political science (or “social studies” if you prefer). Let’s instead vote for the person that stepped on everyone’s heads to make sure he and his company are successful! What could go wrong? Running a country is exactly the same as running a factory, no?

        And I’m sorry that so many universities are heavily left-leaning. I’m sure that if the right stops burning books at every corner there would be more right-leaning universities (tho politics should always stay out of classes in my opinion).

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          This is the dumbest comment I’ve seen on lemmy yet.

          Well the first part is spot on…

          Actually, there are numerous trades and other careers where you dont go to college and do very well.

          The second part, not so much…

          But please keep voting for people with degrees in History because thats working out awesomely.

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        Tell me you don’t know what the work “educated” means in a truly demented political rant without admitting you don’t know what the word means.

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        Yeah no the whole “Universities are leftist brainwashing stations” is the most bullshit take I’ve heard and almost always comes from people who haven’t been within 15 feet of a college.

        Literally most of the shit I was taught was literally neoliberal capitalist-friendly stuff mandated by the states requirements for the degree. A ton of it was helpful in terms of building effective critical thinking skills but if anything the only instructors that ever introduced any sort of political slant was usually the right wingers or religious people. Literally had an instructor intentionally frame parts of our philosophy class in a way that made more pro-religious philosophy appear to be the correct answer. Students that spoke out and tried to say they favored things like determinism for instance were often shut down by the instructor trying to make us look at things like free will in a way that was more favorable to religion. Later found out after the class the dude was a former pastor.

        And even the few openly left-leaning instructors were usually just generic neoliberal democrat voting cut-outs that for some reason Republicans and other fringe lunatics pretend are leftist-communist-extremist-goblins.

        The vast majority of instructors just simply didn’t even make their politics affiliation apparent. There’s tons I couldn’t even remotely gauge just simply because they only taught and talked about class material.

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    Quirk of a polarized political system thanks to FPTP-voting. Sooner or later even the lamest, most basic stuff suddenly turns political and “controversial” while billionaires laugh all the way to the bank. It’s by design and what happens when groups of individuals are allowed to hoard obscene wealth and use it to rule the masses.

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      I mean - I dislike financial inequality as much as the next person, but attributing the failing education system and polarization to “billionaires” will get us nowhere.

      The vast majority of politicians, educators, propagandists and just insecure people are not billionaires. Don’t take away their responsibility, they are not mindless babies.

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        Except that the money flowing to the top 1% are the result of politics. The tax cuts which funnel money out of the public coffers and into billionaires’ pockets also require cuts to services, like education. Polarization is what’s required to motivate voters to continue to vote against their own interests. They’re very much connected.

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          The question then is why the 1% have such influence. Why is lobbying even legal when politicians are supposed to represent the people. Why are politicians allowed to trade stocks with inside information on policy. Why do we allow money to corrupt democracy.

          Other countries have the problems of first past the post (and I’m it’s biggest critic) but I don’t think politics is as polarising like a team sport as in the USA, and monetary incentives like lobbying are illegal in most countries

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            I agree. In general, lobbying is a much bigger issue than the “billionaires”. Lobbying exists at all levels. You can have a dinner with a local politician for a very affordable fee ($3-5K), and meet the former or the future president (maybe even the current) for $200-300K. Lobbying is everywhere, it’s not limited to billionaires.

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          Everything is connected if you look deep enough. People who drive rolling coal cars and hate “the libs” are responsible for their action. Choosing an ideology, watching propaganda, immersing oneself in hate are all actions. Sure, billionaires are having an outsized impact on the world. That’s power. In general - power does corrupt. We, the people, have to take responsibility for our actions, not expect billionaires to stop growing and exercising their influence. It’s easy to blame “the billionaires” for making someone a shitty person.

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      There’s absolutely a trend/coordinated effort among the global right wing to basically turn every country into Russia, strong dictator, highly nationalistic, one religion forced on everybody, and much much more. It’s happening in America, Europe, Canada, and all of their media and influencers are working together to push the same “values” on everyone, homophobic, transphobic, misogynistic, racist, and anti-intellectual, anything “woke”.

      It’s time for us to unite globally against the Right wing and their allies, that’s the real world war we’re going to have to go through in order to stop them from holding us back and to fix this world’s problems.

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        It’s time for us to unite globally against the Right wing and their allies

        Democrats 🤝I.N.D.I.A alliance

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        There’s absolutely a trend/coordinated effort among the global right wing to basically turn every country into Russia, strong dictator, highly nationalistic, one religion forced on everybody, and much much more.

        I don’t think so. I don’t even think Russia wants to be Russia right now. They want to be the USSR. They want to be powerful and feared. There are some people that might want to become what they thought Russia was a few years ago, but Russia right now? Russia is getting their shit pushed in by Ukraine and falling out of windows right now. Russia is weak. There is no future for a country down the path Putin chose.

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          You are almost correct. But Putin doesn’t want Russia to be USSR, he wants to be in power entire his life and after death. He wants personal autocracy or dictatorship where KGB helps keep him and his oligarchs in power. Even war he started is a mean to throw a wall on people’s heads.

          People who want Russia to be USSR do it not because they want to be “powerful and feared”, but because in USSR there was decent healthcare outside of Moscow, school near their home wasn’t closed by Sobyanin and there was no war with Ukraine. Because in USSR there was “peace to world” instead of “we will turn world to radioactive ash”(AFAIR Kiselev’s quote, Putin’s propagandist), “glory to science and production” instead of warmongering and destruction.

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            You are almost correct. But Putin doesn’t want Russia to be USSR,

            He wants rule the countries that used to be part of the USSR. He wants them to be part of Russia. He wants Russia to be a serious military threat to the rest of the planet like the USSR was.

            he wants to be in power entire his life and after death.

            Putin wants to achieve what Stalin did and surpass him in terms of having a stranglehold on power in Russia.

            People who want Russia to be USSR do it not because they want to be “powerful and feared” but because in USSR there was decent healthcare outside of Moscow

            In some places. In other places they tested nuclear bombs in your backyard, and you were totally fucked. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semipalatinsk_Test_Site#Health_impacts

            I did not mean that Putin wants the standard of living in Russia to be like it was under the USSR. I meant that Putin wants Russia to have the presence that the USSR had on the international stage and corresponding respect.

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              You are telling me how he wants to be perceived, not who he is - old KGB dictator who forgot to take his medications. The only things he competing in with Stalin: cult of personality and political assasinations.

              Interesting article…

              exposed to the fallout between 1949 and 1956

              1956 is 3 years after Stalin’s death.

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                You are telling me how he wants to be perceived, not who he is

                Presumably, you already know who he is.

                The only things he competing in with Stalin: cult of personality and political assasinations.

                I would probably add paranoia.

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          None of that makes DeSantis and Trump and co. Simp Putin any less, the same with Marine LePen in France and various others.

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    Stop voting for fascists just because they blame all your problems on marginalized people, already.

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    I’d love to see those who disagree with his statement answer the question “when is a good time to not vote for educated leaders?” that applies more than 0.01% of the time.

    Even religious people shouldn’t disagree with it. If you want someone with religious background in then you want them to be educated in matters to do with that religion. That they themselves don’t consider that education is telling.

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    While I agree that leaders should be educated. It’s not a teachers place to tell any student what or who to vote for.

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    Yea, I agree with his statement but it was implied who he was talking about and when you add his social media posts showing a bias to a specific political party it was a no brainer and why would ask your students in a class to not vote for a particular political party.