• randoot@lemmy.world
    142·
    3 months ago

    Ha only if. Autopilot turns off right before a crash so that Tesla can claim it was off and blame it on the driver. Look it up.

      • Sonicdemon86@lemmy.worldEnglish
        24·
        3 months ago

        Mark Rober had a video on autopilot of several cars and he used his Tesla. The car turned off the autopilot when he crashed through a styrofaom wall.

        • randoot@lemmy.world
          24·
          3 months ago

          This is how they claim autopilot is safer than human drivers. In reality Tesla has one of the highest fatality rates but magically all of those happen when autopilot was “off”

      • JcbAzPx@lemmy.worldEnglish
        12·
        3 months ago

        Most states apply liability to whoever is in the driver seat anyway. If you are operating the vehicle, even if you’re not controlling it at that moment, you are expected to maintain safe operation.

        That’s why the Uber self driving car that killed someone was considered the test driver’s fault and left Uber mostly off the hook.

        Not sure how it works for the robo taxis, though.

        • Allonzee@lemmy.world
          5·
          3 months ago

          Yeah that’s gonna be tricky with those. I live in Vegas where they’re already operating. No steering wheel at all.

        • nekbardrun@lemmy.world
          1·
          3 months ago

          Well… What about blaming the passengers?

          Now, I would like to imagine the legal case of an accident involving a self driving robo-taxi transporting another robot to a facility (owned by the company).

          Maybe they can blame the humans who suffered the accident?

    • Tja@programming.dev
      3·
      3 months ago

      The driver is always at blame, even if it was on. They turn it off for marketing claims.

      PS: fuck elon

    • NιƙƙιDιɱҽʂ@lemmy.world
      25·
      3 months ago

      Nah, it just disengages a fraction of a second before impact so they can claim “it wasn’t engaged at the moment of impact, so not our responsibility.”

      There were rumours about this for ages, but I honestly didn’t fully buy it until I saw it in Mark Rober’s vison vs lidar video and various other follow-ups to it.

      • Tja@programming.dev
        3·
        3 months ago

        It not about responsibility, it’s about marketing. At no point do they assume responsibility, like any level 2 system. It would look bad if it was engaged, but you are 100% legally liable for what the car does when on autopilot (or the so called “full self driving”). It’s just a lane keeping assistant.

        If you trust your life (or the life of others) to a a lane keeping assistant you deserve to go to jail, be it Tesla, VW, or BYD.

  • ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world
    19·
    3 months ago

    Tldr: Take the train and be safe.

    Rant: In the EU, you are 35x more likely to die from a car crash, compared to a train crash. The union has created the so-called Vision Zero program, which is designed to reach zero driving deaths by some arbitrarily chosen date in the future. And of course it talks about autonomously driving cars. You know, crazy idea, but what if instead of we bet it all on some hypothetical magic Jesus technology that may or may not exist by the arbitrarily chosen date and instead focus on the real world solution that we already have? But well, the car industry investors would make less money, so I can answer that myself. :(

    Edit: Also, Musk is a Nazi cunt who should die of cancer.

    • Tja@programming.dev
      2·
      3 months ago

      Well, there is no train station at my house. Or Aldi. Or my kids Kindergarten. And I live Germany, where public transport is excellent on a global level (memes about Deutsche Bahn aside).

      Cars will be necessary for the foreseeable future. Let’s make them as safe as possible while investing in public transport, they are not mutually exclusive.

      PS: fuck Elon.